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Changing a boxes stamp

9 messages in this thread | Started on 2003-12-09

Changing a boxes stamp

From: Chuck Straub (woodschuckstraub@yahoo.com) | Date: 2003-12-09 06:52:39 UTC-08:00
I was just wondering what people thought of a box
owner replacing his/her boxes stamp not because the
stamp is broken or missing but just to put a better
stamp in the box. I am thinking of replacing some of
my earler hand carved crude stamps or very simple
store bought stamps with new hand carved stamps. Now
that my carving abilities have improved some, the ones
I carved when I first started look pretty bad and very
crude.

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Re: Changing a boxes stamp

From: bcostley (bobbyeubanks@yahoo.com) | Date: 2003-12-09 16:50:41 UTC
Go for it - it will make the older stamps "collector editions."

--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Straub
wrote:
> I was just wondering what people thought of a box
> owner replacing his/her boxes stamp not because the
> stamp is broken or missing but just to put a better
> stamp in the box. I am thinking of replacing some of
> my earler hand carved crude stamps or very simple
> store bought stamps with new hand carved stamps. Now
> that my carving abilities have improved some, the ones
> I carved when I first started look pretty bad and very
> crude.
>
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Re: [LbNA] Changing a boxes stamp

From: Rayvenhaus (rayvenhaus@myndworx.com) | Date: 2003-12-09 09:20:49 UTC-08:00
I am doing the same thing as a matter of fact. I've got a series of stamps
that are quite similar, just the names are different that are carved into
the stamps as well.. (It's kinda hard to come up with 8 different husky
pictures)

I'm still doing more research and may change the entire series since 2 are
already missing......

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Straub"
To: "Letterbox-Usa@Yahoogroups. Com"
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:52 AM
Subject: [LbNA] Changing a boxes stamp


> I was just wondering what people thought of a box
> owner replacing his/her boxes stamp not because the
> stamp is broken or missing but just to put a better
> stamp in the box. I am thinking of replacing some of
> my earler hand carved crude stamps or very simple
> store bought stamps with new hand carved stamps. Now
> that my carving abilities have improved some, the ones
> I carved when I first started look pretty bad and very
> crude.
>



Re: Changing a boxes stamp

From: rscarpen (RiskyNil@pocketmail.com) | Date: 2003-12-09 17:58:12 UTC
> I was just wondering what people thought of a box
> owner replacing his/her boxes stamp not because the
> stamp is broken or missing but just to put a better
> stamp in the box.

I don't know.... I kind of like the idea of leaving the old stamp in
there along with the new one so you can show off just how much your
carving have improved. =) But it's not the end of my world if you
decide to pull the old stamp completely.

As for the getting people to visit your box more than once--adding a
new stamp will certainly help. (Leaving the old one won't detract
from that aspect either.) But an even better way of doing that--hide
a completelly new letterbox in the park later in the year. =)

I don't really try to "market" my letterboxes, though. If people
want to find them, they will. If they really like the area, they'll
likely come back over and over again--with or without the box. And
if the place didn't impress them so much that they'd want to come
back again, I wouldn't want to try convincing people to come back for
a repeat visit. Let them find another beautiful, wonderful park that
they can't get enough of.

Just because one can't hide letterboxes in Yosemite doesn't mean
people are going to stop visiting the place! =)

But then.... I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to
market your box for several seasons. It's just not something I would
personally do for the reasons I gave.

-- Ryan


Re: Changing a boxes stamp

From: Phyto (phyto_me@yahoo.com) | Date: 2003-12-09 18:24:18 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Straub
wrote:
> I was just wondering what people thought of a box
> owner replacing his/her boxes stamp not because the
> stamp is broken or missing but just to put a better
> stamp in the box... Now that my carving abilities have improved
> some, the ones I carved when I first started look pretty bad and
> very crude.

That exact thought had crossed my mind about a few boxes. Rather than
recarve (unless you wanted hand vs store or really didn't like the
stamp)- My thought was keep the stamp for a couple of reasons:

1) posterity - interesting historically to look back on the box and
stamp not only for its age but perhaps it really relates to something
for a particular time and location.

For example: a particular stamp that I carved was not mounted because
it was carved in-situ that very day that it was placed out of sheer
inspiration. I won't ever replace the stamp but it will be mounted.

2) inspiration - I find that rather than recarve and place in the same
box, I do a sequel to that box in a different location with
inspiration taken from the stamp used in the original box.
**see Secret Garden I & II**

So, in that sense - keep the original and make a sequel that is just
as enjoyable and shows the progression of stamp carving.

Just some thoughts
-Phyto




Re: Changing a boxes stamp

From: sailing_bindlestiff (sailing_bindlestiff@yahoo.com) | Date: 2003-12-10 00:08:03 UTC
No sense in "beating a dead horse" (grin) and reiterating the same
sentiments because the following are my thoughts exactly!

---PJ
aka Bindle Babe

>So, in that sense - keep the original and make a sequel that is just
as enjoyable and shows the progression of stamp carving.



Re: Changing a boxes stamp

From: The Lennens3 (cckylesmomi@hotmail.com) | Date: 2003-12-10 03:43:19 UTC
I have changed a boxes stamp only once and it was because I just
happened to carve a new stamp and liked it better. The box I did
this for was a Patriotic box, placed at a war memorial and I changed
it on Memorial Day. I have also carved a new better stamp for a box
that had gone missing, but I changed the location of the box too.

My question is: If you change the stamp, does that make it a new
box for one to go back and get if they have already gotten the old
stamp? I know there are no rules but what is the concences on
this???

Interesting!!
Carie
The LENNEN'S 3
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, Chuck Straub
wrote:
> I was just wondering what people thought of a box
> owner replacing his/her boxes stamp not because the
> stamp is broken or missing but just to put a better
> stamp in the box. I am thinking of replacing some of
> my earler hand carved crude stamps or very simple
> store bought stamps with new hand carved stamps. Now
> that my carving abilities have improved some, the ones
> I carved when I first started look pretty bad and very
> crude.
>
> __________________________________
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> New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing.
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Re: Changing a boxes stamp

From: rscarpen (RiskyNil@pocketmail.com) | Date: 2003-12-10 17:51:40 UTC
> My question is: If you change the stamp, does that make it a new
> box for one to go back and get if they have already gotten the old
> stamp? I know there are no rules but what is the concences on
> this???

The concenses on that count is that it's NOT a new box. Same
location, same clue, same box. Even if the clue changes slightly to
move the box to a better hiding place doesn't necessarily make it a
new find. (Especially if you don't even change the name of the
box.) That's more a matter of did you intend to "move" the letterbox
or created a new one from scratch? If you moved it, it won't count
as a new find. If you created it from scratch, it's a new box.

But no one is checking if you count it in some other way. =)

-- Ryan


Re: Changing a boxes stamp

From: The Lennens3 (cckylesmomi@hotmail.com) | Date: 2003-12-10 22:28:49 UTC
Very true, the box I did this with became a 2nd edition!
Why are we worried anyway............I mean; who's counting!


--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "rscarpen"
wrote:
> > My question is: If you change the stamp, does that make it a
new
> > box for one to go back and get if they have already gotten the
old
> > stamp? I know there are no rules but what is the concences on
> > this???
>
> The concenses on that count is that it's NOT a new box. Same
> location, same clue, same box. Even if the clue changes slightly
to
> move the box to a better hiding place doesn't necessarily make it
a
> new find. (Especially if you don't even change the name of the
> box.) That's more a matter of did you intend to "move" the
letterbox
> or created a new one from scratch? If you moved it, it won't
count
> as a new find. If you created it from scratch, it's a new box.
>
> But no one is checking if you count it in some other way. =)
>
> -- Ryan